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Thread: "Crunch" goes the gearbox

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    Unhappy "Crunch" goes the gearbox

    Much unhappiness in my household at the moment

    Last night I wanted to head out, so climbed in the Tig and starter her up. Slipped it into "D" to the sound of a horrible crunch and clunk. Transmission light on the dash came on with a ding, and my heart sank. Tried to drive hoping everything would reset itself, but unfortunately it didn't. Didn't want to change gear in "D", "S", or Tiptronic mode.

    I parked her again and had a poor nights sleep. Phone Roadside Assist this morning and they recommended I try "resetting" it by unlocking and locking several times in close succession, and if that didn't work they'd have to tow me to a dealer.

    I tried the trick, started up, and this time when I slipped into gear it didn't crunch... but the warning light on the dash was still lit. Went for a short drive and this time it DID change gears and let me get up to 60 (speed limit in my area... could probably go faster) without problems, but the dash light is still lit up and didn't reset. Am relieved about that as I presume that means it isn't a chronic mechanical failure... but I won't know till the dealer sees it I guess.

    Called the dealer just after 8am and they took my details. Waiting for a service agent to call me back and tell me what to do. Needless to say, I'm still very concerned about what's wrong and what happens next.

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    That's certainly a suck hole of a thing to happen. The light may be still on because of the hissy fit it threw but definitely needs to be checked out. Luckily it's still under warranty, I wouldn't want to know how much a rebuild on that box would cost :S
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    That's why i didn't go auto

    Can you request they use redline oil for the gearbox as it is apparently a lot better quality than the vw stuff?

    Let us know how it goes?

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    I was just thinking of the APR remap. Things like this make me want to leave everything as stock.
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    Yeah, I have to admit that this happening has put me off the idea of chipping now. It may just be a one off oddity, but now that I know my 'box is questionable it means that chipping is off the table for me now.

    My dealer cannot book me in till the 29th!!!!! but has agreed to plug it into the diagnostic machine on Monday morning to see what it says. I am seriously hoping it's just a case of needing to clear codes and that it was just an odd glitch rather than a mechanical failure. I drove it again this afternoon (albeit gingerly) and it changed gears fine all the way up to 6th and down again. No strange sounds or behaviour that I could identify. Just the lights on the dash are all on still *shrug*. Will see on Monday I guess.
    Last edited by Arctra; 17-04-2010 at 06:15 PM.

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    Hope its a quick fix and let the UK guys know how you get on,I,m sure they,ll be interested in this one
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    Crunching noise can never be good. Let's hope they find the damaged part.
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    I'm sorry to hear that mate. Was the car parked on the level surface or was it very steep on? And just a silly question; when you normally park, do you put it in the N first, than switch the engine OFF, put the hand brake ON and with the foot OFF the brake pedal shift in P and then remove the key from the ignition.
    Also it would be worthwhile to have it scanned with VCDS before you go to the dealer. I hope it is nothing major.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transporter View Post
    I'm sorry to hear that mate. Was the car parked on the level surface or was it very steep on? And just a silly question; when you normally park, do you put it in the N first, than switch the engine OFF, put the hand brake ON and with the foot OFF the brake pedal shift in P and then remove the key from the ignition.
    Also it would be worthwhile to have it scanned with VCDS before you go to the dealer. I hope it is nothing major.
    Yeah, car was parked at home on the level. When I normally park I slip it straight into P with foot on the brake, then put on handbrake, except I think I do it too quickly (except a few times where I accidentally didn't take it out of gear before turning the engine off). I've been going through it over and over and it's the only answer I can come up with. I may have taken it out of gear too fast when I got home from work, then put it back in gear too fast after restarting it. Who knows.

    If I can find a VCDS cable today to scan, will it affect what the dealer can do when they scan on Monday?

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    VCDS scans results

    OK, so I have a cheap eBay Micro-CAN cable which I figured I could use to do a quick scan. I dare not do any resetting of codes yet. If anyone can help interpret this log I would be most grateful!

    ------------------------------START----------------------------------

    VCDS Version: Release 805.0
    Data version: 20080625

    Sunday,18,April,2010,10:05:47:26365

    Chassis Type: 1K0
    Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 1C 22 25 42 44 46 4F 52 53
    56 62 72

    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    62-Door,Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CBA) Labels: Redir Fail!
    Part No SW: 03L 906 022 G HW: 03L 906 022 G
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG 3396
    Revision: 13H01--- Serial number: VWX7Z0HN3NP0SX
    Coding: 0000175
    Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032

    1 Fault Found:
    053286 - Please Check Fault Codes in Transmission Control Module
    U1026 - 000 - - - Intermittent

    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100000
    Fault Priority: 6 - The fault has a long term influence on drivability.
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Mileage: 22836 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2000.00.00
    Time: 22:44:28

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 920 /min
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Load: 0.0 %
    (no units): 0.0
    Torque: 0.0 Nm
    Bin. Bits: 00100000
    Torque: 615.0 Nm

    Readiness: N/A

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09G-927-750.lbl
    Part No SW: 09G 927 750 FD HW: 09G 927 750 FD
    Component: AQ 250 6F 1124
    Revision: 00H76000 Serial number:
    Coding: 0000328
    Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200

    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent - MIL ON
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 10100100
    Fault Priority: 2 - The fault requires an immediate service appointment.
    Fault Frequency: 2
    Reset counter: 40
    Mileage: 22818 km
    Time Indication: 0


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: None
    Part No SW: 5N0 614 517 N HW: 5N0 614 517 N
    Component: J104 C2 450 V2 0008
    Revision: --H13--- Serial number: 00000001643055
    Coding: 0015650
    Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200

    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 3 - The fault doesn't require an immediate service appointment, but it should be corrected with the next service appointment.
    Fault Frequency: 4
    Reset counter: 119
    Mileage: 22818 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2000.00.00
    Time: 13:29:03

    Freeze Frame:
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Hex Value: 0x0000
    Voltage: 12.00 V
    Bin. Bits: 00011111
    Count: 170
    Hex Value: 0x0000

    ------------------------------END----------------------------------
    Last edited by Arctra; 18-04-2010 at 11:44 AM.

    Tiguan TDI, 6spd Tiptronic Auto
    Black, sunroof, comfort pack, off-road tech, tan leather, park assist & roof bars.
    Avg 7.63L/100km over 189,000kms

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