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    Quote Originally Posted by HOTHATCH View Post
    Have you checked your pcv ? If not remove your engine cover and disconnect the hose from the inlet manifold and see if you can blow through it. If you can then your pcv is cactus. You will also be losing boost big time. Do a search on pcv fixes for Golf Gti if you haven't already heard of the problem. It's very common.
    Will check on the weekend thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fangy View Post
    Sorry mate I meant it would have used at least 4L coz it was fully at the end of the low mark on the dipstick.
    The high to low mark on the dipstick is 1L. Dipsticks dont sit all the way to the bottom of the sump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fangy View Post
    Hi guys,

    I got my oil changed at the 30k service about 2 months ago and has done only like 2000kms and already the engine oil flash has come up. I've checked on the floors and don't see any oil marks so I don't think it's a leak. I don't thrash it that much but I do have to point out that I go through about 2.5hrs of bumper to bumper traffic each day (making my fuel consumption also avg at 12-13L/100 ), not sure if this is the cause though? I can't think of why it's chewing through the oil so fast.

    Just wondering if any one else with a MK5 Golf GTI has the same problem as well? Also do you guys usually use 5W 30 or 5W 40?.
    Oil usage isn't that unusual, if you do a search of this forum and the golfmkv.com one you'll see that some people use more oil than others. Volkswagen have a procedure for testing if your oil usage is excessive and if you want something done about it you will have to see your dealer and ask them to start monitoring it. This means you have to go back to them for refills.

    And did you check the oil after the service to make sure it was the correct level? And how often do you check it? The oil should be checked on a regular basis, waiting for the idiot light to come on is irresponsible IMO and engine damage caused by lack of lubrication is not covered by warranty. As your engine is using oil I'd be both taking it up with the dealer who does the servicing and taking it back to them _before_ the idiot light comes on for top ups. They will record how much the engine is using over a period and see if Volkswagen consider it to be worthy of further investigation.

    It's possible that the oil level was just above the idiot light trigger after the service and a minimal loss of oil has triggered it but you will never know if you didn't open the bonnet and check manually (or check by vagcom/vcds - many GTI's after MY08 (some earlier) can measure the level to the nearest mm in the sump).

    Quote Originally Posted by Fangy View Post
    I would definately not be worried if it was using 1L per 2000km, however it actually used all 5L which was concerning.
    If it used all 5L you'd be on here asking about a new engine!

    I rang my mechanic who servied the car and they advised they use Fuchs Proceed 3 5W-30. They did however mention that with the MK5 GTI's it is known to chew quite a lot of oil. I might change to a different brand and try 5W 40 for the thicker oil to see if this makes a big difference or not
    Make sure whatever oil you're using is Volkswagen approved for your engine, if it's not they won't cover any warranty work on the engine and use this as the reason. I can't see that oil listed and this is the latest data from Volkswagen so if that oil they using is not one of the ones listed you can kiss your engine warranty goodbye so it would pay to check to see what they're using.

    The only Fuchs oils approved for the 504.00/507.00 standard are

    Fuchs Fuchs Sintolux Force V SAE 5W-30 50400/50700
    Fuchs Fuchs TITAN GT1 Longlife III SAE 5W-30 50400/50700
    Fuchs Fuchs TITAN GT1 PRO C-3 SAE 5W-30 50400/5070

    And there are no 40 weight oils approved at all in the 504.00/507.00.

    Volkswagen 504.00/507.00 Approved Oils


    For 502.00/505.00 it's

    Fuchs Fuchs TITAN GT1 SAE 5W-30 50200/50500
    Fuchs Fuchs TITAN Supersy n SAE 0W-30 50200/50500
    Fuchs Fuchs TITAN Supersy n SAE 5W-40 50200/50500
    Fuchs Fuchs TITAN Supersy n LONGLIFE SAE 5W-30 50200/50500
    Fuchs Fuchs TITAN Supersy n LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 50200/50500

    Volkwagen 502.00/505.00 Approved Oils


    and lastly for 502.00/505.00/505.01 it's

    Fuchs Fuchs TITAN GT1 SAE 5W-40 50200/50500/50501
    Fuchs Fuchs TITAN GT1 PRO FLEX SAE 5W-30 50200/50500/50501
    Fuchs Fuchs TITAN GT1 PRO GAS SAE 5W-30 50200/50500/50501
    Fuchs Fuchs TITAN Supersyn PLUS SAE 5W-40 50200/50500/50501
    Fuchs TITAN GT1 SAE 5W-40 50200/50500/50501

    Volkswagen 502.00/505.00/505.01 Approved Oils

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOTHATCH View Post
    Have you checked your pcv ? If not remove your engine cover and disconnect the hose from the inlet manifold and see if you can blow through it. If you can then your pcv is cactus. You will also be losing boost big time. Do a search on pcv fixes for Golf Gti if you haven't already heard of the problem. It's very common.
    Sorry for the NOOB question, but what is a PCV? And why is boost pressure relevant to the oil consumption?
    2008 MkV GTI BG Tints

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fangy View Post
    Hi guys,

    I got my oil changed at the 30k service about 2 months ago and has done only like 2000kms and already the engine oil flash has come up. I've checked on the floors and don't see any oil marks so I don't think it's a leak. I don't thrash it that much but I do have to point out that I go through about 2.5hrs of bumper to bumper traffic each day (making my fuel consumption also avg at 12-13L/100 ), not sure if this is the cause though? I can't think of why it's chewing through the oil so fast.

    Just wondering if any one else with a MK5 Golf GTI has the same problem as well? Also do you guys usually use 5W 30 or 5W 40?

    Cheers.
    FYI I had exactly the same thing happen this weekend (MY08 MKV GTI) - and it worried me too. OK I will be more diligent about checking the oil when I clean or refuel the car, but I was still surprised that it could go through that much oil in only a couple of thousand K. I reckon the significant thing is that I recently changed jobs and now have a car park - which means I am doing a LOT more driving in traffic - as you are. There is no oil mark at home or work, so the car is not leaking.
    2008 MkV GTI BG Tints

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable View Post
    Sorry for the NOOB question, but what is a PCV? And why is boost pressure relevant to the oil consumption?
    Thank you Wikipedia:
    PCV valve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve, or PCV valve, is a variable-restriction valve that assists with the continual evacuation of gases from inside a gasoline/petrol internal combustion engine's crankcase

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